WEBVTT 00:01.790 --> 00:03.340 - Hey, good morning team, how are you doing? 00:03.340 --> 00:04.850 Major General Wilcox here. 00:04.850 --> 00:07.760 Shout out to the Atlas Nation for the great 00:07.760 --> 00:12.330 last couple of weeks as we work our way through COVID-19 00:12.330 --> 00:13.870 and everything that's going on. 00:13.870 --> 00:16.280 We decided to take a field trip this morning. 00:16.280 --> 00:18.560 We did this Facebook Live event last week 00:18.560 --> 00:20.380 over from my office. 00:20.380 --> 00:23.710 And this morning, because we got a lot of medical questions 00:23.710 --> 00:27.470 last week and virus questions, we took a field trip. 00:27.470 --> 00:28.970 We took a smart field trip, 00:28.970 --> 00:31.520 and we're over at the 59th medical wing, 00:31.520 --> 00:35.530 which is the new Wilford Hall Hospital on Lackland. 00:35.530 --> 00:38.032 And I'm sitting joined today by my good friend, 00:38.032 --> 00:41.510 Major General John DeGoes, Dr. John DeGoes. 00:41.510 --> 00:45.400 He's the senior medic here on JBSA. 00:45.400 --> 00:48.460 So we pulled him in and he agreed to do this with us, 00:48.460 --> 00:51.050 so we could talk about the things that are important 00:51.050 --> 00:53.480 to IMSC, but you could also ask questions 00:53.480 --> 00:56.880 and hear from the senior doc here at JBSA. 00:56.880 --> 00:59.290 So I just wanted to start out by running down 00:59.290 --> 01:01.210 kind of where we are. 01:01.210 --> 01:03.830 We've actually seen an improvement with the number 01:03.830 --> 01:08.320 of folks that we're monitoring for the COVID-19 virus. 01:08.320 --> 01:11.300 We dropped this morning for the first time in two weeks 01:11.300 --> 01:14.190 as, you know, two weeks ago, spring break was on, 01:14.190 --> 01:16.170 so we were monitoring more folks. 01:16.170 --> 01:19.538 Today we actually saw a 10-person decrease 01:19.538 --> 01:21.858 in the number that we were monitoring, 01:21.858 --> 01:24.720 down to about 250, 260. 01:24.720 --> 01:27.380 And those with symptoms have been cut in half. 01:27.380 --> 01:29.820 So great news for us there. 01:29.820 --> 01:32.230 I think our measures are starting to work. 01:32.230 --> 01:34.140 This is what the docs talk about. 01:34.140 --> 01:37.090 And this is why we're on telework. 01:37.090 --> 01:40.130 We do have that one positive that we have, 01:40.130 --> 01:44.900 but that person got it from his reserve duty out of state. 01:44.900 --> 01:47.370 No time was that person ever in the building 01:47.370 --> 01:50.713 or in contact with any of the Atlas Nation. 01:50.713 --> 01:53.610 And that person is doing remarkably well, too, 01:53.610 --> 01:58.610 very mild symptoms, and on their way to recovery there. 01:58.880 --> 02:01.460 So we've been in telework now, heavy telework, 02:01.460 --> 02:05.700 probably 90, 95% in telework for the last week. 02:05.700 --> 02:07.590 We started two weeks ago. 02:07.590 --> 02:08.680 And that's working out. 02:08.680 --> 02:11.510 I'll talk a little bit about that as we go through. 02:11.510 --> 02:15.070 But, you know, this is a great way to communicate. 02:15.070 --> 02:18.770 So we're coming at you live over at Wilford Hall. 02:18.770 --> 02:21.160 So Doc, do you want to say a few opening remarks? 02:21.160 --> 02:23.188 Thanks for joining us today, man. 02:23.188 --> 02:25.102 - You bet, you bet, thank you. 02:25.102 --> 02:26.730 So good morning, good afternoon, or good evening, 02:26.730 --> 02:30.145 wherever you are, the Atlas Nation on the planet. 02:30.145 --> 02:33.420 Let me first start by saying thank you for what you do 02:33.420 --> 02:37.693 for all Air Force and military health system medics. 02:37.693 --> 02:42.030 We can't exist, really, without first-class facilities, 02:42.030 --> 02:43.763 and thank you for doing that. 02:44.626 --> 02:46.950 The bottom line upfront, I think, 02:46.950 --> 02:50.380 from this COVID operation 02:50.380 --> 02:53.420 is to get mission-essential work done 02:53.420 --> 02:57.320 as safely as possible while taking care of our people, 02:57.320 --> 03:01.820 their families, and the communities in which you all live. 03:01.820 --> 03:06.820 And so COVID-19 or coronavirus, it's the third coronavirus 03:07.860 --> 03:09.540 that's caused significant disease. 03:09.540 --> 03:10.780 The first one was SARS, 03:10.780 --> 03:14.150 and then there was the Middle East Respiratory Coronavirus. 03:14.150 --> 03:16.490 This one, the problem with this one 03:16.490 --> 03:18.500 is it spreads very easily. 03:18.500 --> 03:21.059 On the positive side, the majority of people 03:21.059 --> 03:24.950 who get infected with it have had small symptoms. 03:24.950 --> 03:27.890 The downside to that is you might not realize it. 03:27.890 --> 03:29.970 You might think it's just kind of a minor thing. 03:29.970 --> 03:34.030 And because you're can-do people, you drive through. 03:34.030 --> 03:35.980 And that's actually dangerous, 03:35.980 --> 03:39.180 because it can lead to increased spread. 03:39.180 --> 03:42.920 And there is a portion of our working population 03:42.920 --> 03:45.010 and then the communities that we live 03:45.010 --> 03:48.260 that are especially susceptible to severe, 03:48.260 --> 03:53.150 and unfortunately, worse than that, fatal at times, 03:53.150 --> 03:53.983 COVID disease. 03:53.983 --> 03:55.650 So the things that you're doing, 03:55.650 --> 03:58.540 the telework, the social distancing, 03:58.540 --> 04:00.450 the frequent handwashing, 04:00.450 --> 04:04.010 particularly before you touch your face or your mouth 04:04.010 --> 04:07.690 or your nose, don't do that with unwashed hands. 04:07.690 --> 04:09.750 Those things are working. 04:09.750 --> 04:13.470 We're seeing that, you know, begin to bend the curve. 04:13.470 --> 04:16.520 What I would say to you is we just had spring break 04:16.520 --> 04:18.810 in San Antonio, so a lot of our medics 04:18.810 --> 04:21.690 at Brooke Army Medical Center and here at the 59th 04:21.690 --> 04:25.730 were also on cruises, skiing in Colorado, 04:25.730 --> 04:27.700 you know, visiting places that put them 04:27.700 --> 04:30.350 in kind of a 14-day quarantine. 04:30.350 --> 04:33.510 We're about to get 450 back as well. 04:33.510 --> 04:36.440 And so kind of the key thing is as you reintegrate them 04:36.440 --> 04:38.480 is to don't let your guard down, 04:38.480 --> 04:40.640 is that maybe those of you 04:40.640 --> 04:43.560 that are going to be mission-essential places 04:43.560 --> 04:45.570 where you can't telework 04:45.570 --> 04:48.050 and there's more people in your duty section, 04:48.050 --> 04:50.120 you've got to redouble your efforts 04:50.120 --> 04:52.620 on appropriate social distancing. 04:52.620 --> 04:54.740 Cover your cough if you have one. 04:54.740 --> 04:56.200 Wash your hands frequently. 04:56.200 --> 04:58.810 Be very careful about touching the face. 04:58.810 --> 05:01.950 You know, foot bumps, knee bumps, no handshakes, 05:01.950 --> 05:04.580 no hugs right now for the time being. 05:04.580 --> 05:06.160 So what should you do 05:06.160 --> 05:10.178 if you think you have COVID-19 symptoms? 05:10.178 --> 05:13.270 The problem is it's very much like 05:13.270 --> 05:16.730 a lot of other incredibly common respiratory things. 05:16.730 --> 05:20.750 So it's not too different from seasonal influenza. 05:20.750 --> 05:23.496 On the positive side, we're one, April right now 05:23.496 --> 05:27.700 in the northern hemisphere is when you start to see 05:27.700 --> 05:29.220 regular seasonal flu, 05:29.220 --> 05:32.533 and it's been a bad year for seasonal flu, drop off. 05:33.620 --> 05:35.173 There's allergies now. 05:36.340 --> 05:38.220 General Wilcox lives next door to me 05:38.220 --> 05:41.150 and both of our houses are coated in yellow pollen. 05:41.150 --> 05:43.750 And so a lot of people are suffering with allergies 05:43.750 --> 05:46.840 right now, and some of the symptoms are similar. 05:46.840 --> 05:50.640 And the common cold is still incredibly common. 05:50.640 --> 05:54.872 So all of those may be confusing. 05:54.872 --> 05:59.790 You probably have not COVID, but the symptoms are similar. 05:59.790 --> 06:02.130 And so where can you get information? 06:02.130 --> 06:06.110 So if you're a military health system TRICARE beneficiary, 06:06.110 --> 06:11.110 there is a MHS or Military Health System Nurse Advice Line, 06:11.140 --> 06:14.030 and the phone number is 1-800-TRICARE. 06:14.030 --> 06:16.760 I know the team here will put that out on the line 06:16.760 --> 06:21.760 so that you can get it, but 1-800-874-2273. 06:22.020 --> 06:23.460 If you're in San Antonio, 06:23.460 --> 06:26.240 we have a San Antonio Military 06:26.240 --> 06:28.760 COVID Nurse Advice Line as well. 06:28.760 --> 06:30.888 We'll put that number out there. 06:30.888 --> 06:35.562 You know, in Texas, there's actually, if you dial 211, 06:35.562 --> 06:39.083 it'll take you, if you hit number six 06:39.083 --> 06:42.220 after you get through 211 in Texas, 06:42.220 --> 06:45.290 it'll take you to COVID information if you need it. 06:45.290 --> 06:48.600 If you're a do-it-yourselfer, you can go to CDC, 06:48.600 --> 06:52.667 which stands for Centers for Disease Control 06:52.667 --> 06:54.624 .gov or G-O-V 06:54.624 --> 06:57.410 and look for coronavirus. 06:57.410 --> 07:00.550 And there is a self-symptom checker 07:00.550 --> 07:03.810 called the Coronavirus Self-Checker. 07:03.810 --> 07:06.040 You can put in your symptoms 07:06.040 --> 07:08.410 and it can give you some advice. 07:08.410 --> 07:12.070 So my advice to you is because we want to keep you, 07:12.070 --> 07:15.280 our patients, and our staff safe, 07:15.280 --> 07:18.660 is that before you come directly into an MTF, 07:18.660 --> 07:20.730 if it's not an emergency, 07:20.730 --> 07:22.400 if it's an emergency, come right in. 07:22.400 --> 07:24.048 Call an ambulance if you need it. 07:24.048 --> 07:27.430 But if it's not an emergency, that you call first, 07:27.430 --> 07:30.190 because we would advise you to put a mask on 07:30.190 --> 07:32.250 before you come into our facilities. 07:32.250 --> 07:35.422 Nearly all of the facilities that you would go to, 07:35.422 --> 07:37.924 military or civilian, 07:37.924 --> 07:42.580 would have you put a mask on before you come in. 07:42.580 --> 07:44.650 And you'd even go through what looks like 07:44.650 --> 07:48.850 an entry control point to sort out sick people 07:48.850 --> 07:53.850 from those are just coming in to an MTF for routine care. 07:54.000 --> 07:56.440 So I think I'll stop there, 07:56.440 --> 07:58.270 and then we'll take some questions. 07:58.270 --> 07:59.150 - No, that's perfect. 07:59.150 --> 08:01.990 I mean, General DeGoes hit it right off the bat. 08:01.990 --> 08:04.100 You know, for the last month, 08:04.100 --> 08:06.890 as we've been building up to the posture 08:06.890 --> 08:09.620 that we were in, our number one priority, 08:09.620 --> 08:12.250 and my number one priority, your commanders, 08:12.250 --> 08:15.070 the PSUs, your directorates, your det commander, 08:15.070 --> 08:17.690 their number one priority is you. 08:17.690 --> 08:20.830 The installation commanders that we live on 08:20.830 --> 08:24.400 across 77 installations in nine, 10 MAJCOMs, 08:24.400 --> 08:27.710 the Space Force, their number one priority is you. 08:27.710 --> 08:30.982 If we keep you safe, you keep the mission going. 08:30.982 --> 08:32.730 We're mission-essential. 08:32.730 --> 08:35.870 Some people are having to go into the building periodically 08:35.870 --> 08:37.000 to do some things. 08:37.000 --> 08:38.858 But I've been super proud of the team 08:38.858 --> 08:42.440 on being able to work through these issues 08:42.440 --> 08:45.510 so they don't have to spend seven days a week, 08:45.510 --> 08:47.220 12 hours a day in the building. 08:47.220 --> 08:49.310 The Shared Services Center, for one, 08:49.310 --> 08:50.990 has done a fabulous job. 08:50.990 --> 08:53.470 You know, we've been working pay through there. 08:53.470 --> 08:55.290 And where they thought they'd have to be there 08:55.290 --> 08:57.430 two different week, all for two weeks, 08:57.430 --> 09:00.400 they've gotten that down to five or six hours a day, 09:00.400 --> 09:02.730 you know, just going in to cut the checks. 09:02.730 --> 09:05.670 So we are figuring out how to do this. 09:05.670 --> 09:09.740 And these things will help us in the long term. 09:09.740 --> 09:12.036 But I really wanna make sure you and your families 09:12.036 --> 09:13.810 are doing good. 09:13.810 --> 09:17.880 It's tough to be telework and locked down 09:17.880 --> 09:20.530 in this stay-at-home work safe order, 09:20.530 --> 09:23.100 especially that we're under here in San Antonio. 09:23.100 --> 09:24.820 The kids can't go out and play. 09:24.820 --> 09:27.770 A lot of the schools have transitioned to online. 09:27.770 --> 09:29.980 You're trying to work at home at the same time. 09:29.980 --> 09:31.960 You're balancing a lot of things. 09:31.960 --> 09:35.000 So you gotta take some time for yourself. 09:35.000 --> 09:37.750 If you watched my email message video 09:37.750 --> 09:39.560 that I put out on Facebook on Wednesday, 09:39.560 --> 09:43.370 I said, hey, take an hour a day for yourself. 09:43.370 --> 09:46.270 If you got a spouse, swap off, you know, 09:46.270 --> 09:48.780 so the spouse can watch the kids, you know. 09:48.780 --> 09:50.730 Try to get some of that time. 09:50.730 --> 09:52.410 Put the kids to bed early. 09:52.410 --> 09:54.870 Let the older kid watch the younger kids. 09:54.870 --> 09:57.120 Go for a walk, read a book. 09:57.120 --> 09:58.580 There's some things to do. 09:58.580 --> 10:02.111 Pick up the phone, call your girlfriend, call your friend, 10:02.111 --> 10:05.400 call your boyfriend, call whoever. 10:05.400 --> 10:08.810 But just get some time away from the virus. 10:08.810 --> 10:11.900 So you guys are doing remarkable things. 10:11.900 --> 10:14.400 I could talk for the next 20 or 30 minutes. 10:14.400 --> 10:15.730 We kicked it off a little bit. 10:15.730 --> 10:17.876 But let's see what kind of questions you have, 10:17.876 --> 10:19.840 because that's why we do it. 10:19.840 --> 10:22.700 So again, thanks, Doc for joining us today. 10:22.700 --> 10:24.360 Ask medical questions. 10:24.360 --> 10:26.210 Ask questions about the Force. 10:26.210 --> 10:29.370 Ask questions about what we're doing on JBSA 10:29.370 --> 10:31.600 or what we're doing across the enterprise. 10:31.600 --> 10:32.870 But let 'er fly. 10:32.870 --> 10:35.430 Mike, I think we got some questions already, 10:35.430 --> 10:36.870 some advance questions. 10:36.870 --> 10:38.630 And I see some are coming in already. 10:38.630 --> 10:40.670 So lay it on us, brother. 10:40.670 --> 10:41.760 - [Mike] Yes, sir. 10:41.760 --> 10:45.750 So Dr. DeGoes, just to go back to when you were talking 10:45.750 --> 10:50.100 about, you know, seasonal allergies and COVID-19 symptoms 10:50.100 --> 10:52.000 and you gave some reference points for that, 10:52.000 --> 10:53.780 and I think your PA team is online, 10:53.780 --> 10:54.683 helping us magnify that. 10:54.683 --> 10:57.653 I think it's Ms. Kiley Kinzel, thank you, Kiley. 10:58.960 --> 11:00.520 Can you give a couple of examples 11:00.520 --> 11:03.960 of what would be primary symptoms of one or the other? 11:03.960 --> 11:08.960 - Sure, so the most common symptom in COVID is fever. 11:09.330 --> 11:14.330 And so as it's spread, we've gotten better research. 11:14.800 --> 11:17.080 We still have more to learn than what we know. 11:17.080 --> 11:22.080 But 90% of patients who have COVID will have a fever. 11:22.820 --> 11:26.170 A few percent less than that will have a dry cough. 11:26.170 --> 11:29.590 So fever and dry cough are the two most common symptoms 11:29.590 --> 11:30.615 far and away. 11:30.615 --> 11:34.269 Those who are going to get the more significant version, 11:34.269 --> 11:37.940 a few days after that fever and dry cough 11:37.940 --> 11:40.240 will develop some shortness of breath. 11:40.240 --> 11:43.430 And so that's, for me in giving advice to patients, 11:43.430 --> 11:45.160 that's kind of a red line. 11:45.160 --> 11:46.150 So to give you an, 11:46.150 --> 11:51.014 we've had about 30 positive lab tests for COVID, 11:51.014 --> 11:54.310 we do all the testing at Brooke Army Medical Center, 11:54.310 --> 11:56.530 in the last week or 10 days. 11:56.530 --> 11:59.500 And to give you an order of magnitude, 11:59.500 --> 12:03.200 all but three of those patients are at home 12:03.200 --> 12:05.180 just getting a phone call twice a day. 12:05.180 --> 12:08.586 But what we tell them is if you begin to get short of breath 12:08.586 --> 12:10.990 don't wait, come back in, 12:10.990 --> 12:13.090 and we will reevaluate them, 12:13.090 --> 12:15.650 and if necessary, admit them to the hospital. 12:15.650 --> 12:19.300 So fever, dry cough, shortness of breath 12:20.470 --> 12:22.530 would be the most common with COVID. 12:22.530 --> 12:26.410 You see more kind of sneezing, itchy, watery eyes 12:26.410 --> 12:29.970 with cold, the common cold and allergy. 12:29.970 --> 12:31.760 They can happen with COVID, 12:31.760 --> 12:34.700 but fever, dry cough, and the warning sign, 12:34.700 --> 12:36.270 shortness of breath. 12:36.270 --> 12:37.120 Great question, Mike. 12:37.120 --> 12:38.010 - Yeah, that was a good one. 12:38.010 --> 12:39.630 I mean, I've run into this problem, too, 12:39.630 --> 12:42.170 you know, when I go out in PT in the morning. 12:42.170 --> 12:44.460 My times have been off for the past two weeks. 12:44.460 --> 12:46.138 I was telling someone this morning, my times are off. 12:46.138 --> 12:48.790 I'm running slower, you know. 12:48.790 --> 12:50.636 It seems like, you know, 12:50.636 --> 12:53.330 I'm not as strong as I am. 12:53.330 --> 12:55.250 But that's allergies. 12:55.250 --> 12:57.740 So listen to what the doc says. 12:57.740 --> 13:01.080 Go to that self-checker, you know, and run through that, 13:01.080 --> 13:03.030 because there are a lot of things competing 13:03.030 --> 13:05.160 with each other right now at the same time. 13:05.160 --> 13:06.263 So great question. 13:07.320 --> 13:09.120 - [Mike] Okay, Dr. DeGoes, as you were talking, 13:09.120 --> 13:11.300 we were starting to get some more health questions come in. 13:11.300 --> 13:13.490 So we're going to intermingle the ones we have in advance 13:13.490 --> 13:15.110 with what we're getting live. 13:15.110 --> 13:17.310 Someone had the question about a prenatal appointment. 13:17.310 --> 13:19.710 Will someone go to houses for blood work, et cetera, 13:19.710 --> 13:21.490 or is that on pause? 13:21.490 --> 13:25.547 - So prenatal care should continue. 13:25.547 --> 13:28.590 Let me just broaden it, too, to say that 13:29.490 --> 13:31.320 a lot of infectious diseases, 13:31.320 --> 13:36.030 where we're very concerned even more so about the population 13:36.030 --> 13:37.770 that's pregnant or might be pregnant. 13:37.770 --> 13:40.376 And so like with flu, we really recommend 13:40.376 --> 13:43.340 everybody get an influenza vaccine each year, 13:43.340 --> 13:45.708 but for pregnancy, in particular. 13:45.708 --> 13:50.708 And so prenatal visits, we can arrange those. 13:51.100 --> 13:55.330 So most MTFs again, if you call ahead for an appointment, 13:55.330 --> 13:57.450 when you come up from the parking lot, 13:57.450 --> 13:59.870 there will be someone that would vector 13:59.870 --> 14:03.070 a healthy person that's coming for a routine follow-up, 14:03.070 --> 14:04.980 like somebody who has lung disease, 14:04.980 --> 14:07.650 we don't want them near where the emergency department 14:07.650 --> 14:10.340 and sick people are that's coming in for a routine. 14:10.340 --> 14:12.650 Same thing for prenatal care. 14:12.650 --> 14:16.290 Now, I can't speak for other, you know, other MTFs. 14:16.290 --> 14:19.178 We have done some house calls here 14:19.178 --> 14:23.030 in the San Antonio Military Health System. 14:23.030 --> 14:25.740 They're typically on a case-by-case basis, 14:25.740 --> 14:28.680 'cause we are trying to decrease foot traffic. 14:28.680 --> 14:30.500 So what I would do is 14:30.500 --> 14:34.100 if someone was about to become pregnant, or is pregnant, 14:34.100 --> 14:37.950 for follow-up care, I'd call your individual MTF, 14:37.950 --> 14:40.770 call your MTF's Nurse Advice Line, 14:40.770 --> 14:43.823 and arrange the safest way to get the care that you need. 14:44.820 --> 14:46.260 Thank you, great question, Mike. 14:46.260 --> 14:47.880 - [Mike] Sir, an as a follow-up to that, 14:47.880 --> 14:49.723 can people go to the pharmacies on base 14:49.723 --> 14:52.750 to get their meds, or is that on lockdown? 14:52.750 --> 14:54.390 What's any LIMFACS? 14:54.390 --> 14:59.214 - Right, so each base is going to be, you know, 14:59.214 --> 15:02.630 under the authority of the local base commander 15:02.630 --> 15:03.610 or wing commander. 15:03.610 --> 15:07.090 And General Goldfein and Secretary Barrett on down 15:07.090 --> 15:09.330 have tried to give maximum flexibility 15:09.330 --> 15:11.280 to our installation commanders, 15:11.280 --> 15:13.593 because the risk in certain communities 15:13.593 --> 15:16.370 is higher than other communities. 15:16.370 --> 15:20.170 And each wing commander has made some health 15:20.170 --> 15:24.216 protection condition decisions to protect the community 15:24.216 --> 15:27.544 while maximizing the benefit to folks, 15:27.544 --> 15:29.560 but keep the mission going. 15:29.560 --> 15:34.560 So on JBSA, we have a drive-thru pharmacy operation at BAMC. 15:35.610 --> 15:37.720 And as General Wilcox and I were walking in 15:37.720 --> 15:41.460 the building today, while you saw that our operation inside 15:41.460 --> 15:44.280 the 59th medical wing, 15:44.280 --> 15:46.730 the standard pharmacy windows were open, 15:46.730 --> 15:50.180 we hope to have a fully mission-capable drive-thru 15:50.180 --> 15:52.880 in front of the Wilford Hall Ambulatory Surgery Center 15:52.880 --> 15:54.400 by close of business today. 15:54.400 --> 15:59.400 So each of your MTFs is gonna have a different option. 15:59.946 --> 16:03.010 What we're trying to do is to reduce touches 16:03.010 --> 16:06.220 as much as possible and to get you the meds 16:06.220 --> 16:09.860 that you need without coming into a crowded waiting room. 16:09.860 --> 16:11.130 So even in the waiting rooms, 16:11.130 --> 16:15.010 we're doing the social distancing, six feet. 16:15.010 --> 16:18.520 So this disease, COVID, is spread by droplets, 16:18.520 --> 16:20.210 small, microscopic droplets. 16:20.210 --> 16:22.370 You can't see them, but they'll go in the air 16:22.370 --> 16:25.080 around a six-foot circle around you. 16:25.080 --> 16:29.720 So you increase your risk by being in a six-foot circle 16:29.720 --> 16:34.200 of somebody who's coughing or sick with increased time. 16:34.200 --> 16:37.422 So that's what's behind the social distancing. 16:37.422 --> 16:41.790 So I just urge you all to be careful. 16:41.790 --> 16:44.976 And if you're capable of using it, 16:44.976 --> 16:49.431 TRICARE has a national mail order pharmacy 16:49.431 --> 16:53.263 that if you're active duty, there's zero copays. 16:53.263 --> 16:57.352 If you're a retiree, the copays are pretty modest. 16:57.352 --> 16:59.790 It's not zero. 16:59.790 --> 17:02.940 So get the medicines you need, don't stop that. 17:02.940 --> 17:05.680 But try to do it as safely as possible. 17:05.680 --> 17:07.100 - [Mike] Thanks, sir. 17:07.100 --> 17:10.470 General Wilcox, I know you're working with the team. 17:10.470 --> 17:11.740 We've got the CAF stood up. 17:11.740 --> 17:14.450 We're having daily meetings about our response. 17:14.450 --> 17:17.630 And I know we're looking at orderly return to work 17:17.630 --> 17:19.170 when that's able to happen. 17:19.170 --> 17:20.980 We have a question related to that, 17:20.980 --> 17:22.700 and a health concern involved with that. 17:22.700 --> 17:23.997 - Okay. 17:23.997 --> 17:25.840 - If the president directs all personnel back to work, 17:25.840 --> 17:27.970 and the health experts and officials disagree 17:27.970 --> 17:29.810 and believe that's too soon, 17:29.810 --> 17:33.300 what's our command, our center prepared to do? 17:33.300 --> 17:37.070 The asker's concern is she or he has a respiratory condition 17:37.070 --> 17:39.038 that could be more serious if they were to contact 17:39.038 --> 17:40.974 the COVID-19 virus. 17:40.974 --> 17:43.460 Could that person provide a doctor's statement 17:43.460 --> 17:45.160 to allow him or her to go back to work 17:45.160 --> 17:47.500 or work from home for a long period of time? 17:47.500 --> 17:48.720 - That's a good question, Mike. 17:48.720 --> 17:51.440 There's a couple things in that question. 17:51.440 --> 17:54.360 Your safety still is our number one priority. 17:54.360 --> 17:58.260 The Chief, the Secretary, the MAJCOM commanders, 17:58.260 --> 18:02.720 you know, my priority remains your safety. 18:02.720 --> 18:05.404 We started transitioning to telework before we, 18:05.404 --> 18:07.060 you know, on our own, 18:07.060 --> 18:10.600 because we can do a lot of our work from telework. 18:10.600 --> 18:13.240 As long as we can continue to get the mission done 18:13.240 --> 18:17.460 from telework, we'll stay in a telework-type operation. 18:17.460 --> 18:19.664 We may have to start bringing some folks back in 18:19.664 --> 18:23.800 to hit those touchpoints on some of those systems 18:23.800 --> 18:25.030 that we can't do. 18:25.030 --> 18:27.150 Or if you've gotta give, you know, 18:27.150 --> 18:28.730 your computer has a problem, 18:28.730 --> 18:31.070 we'll have to do that to facilitate telework. 18:31.070 --> 18:32.680 But we're not going to pull the trigger 18:32.680 --> 18:35.551 and bring everybody back into the building all at one time, 18:35.551 --> 18:37.143 say next week. 18:37.143 --> 18:41.545 This will be an informed decisions with inputs 18:41.545 --> 18:44.630 and a lot of recommendations from the medical community 18:44.630 --> 18:46.220 on how we proceed. 18:46.220 --> 18:49.030 We're all tied in with that all across the Air Force. 18:49.030 --> 18:51.240 The second piece of that question has to do 18:51.240 --> 18:53.130 with the high-risk person. 18:53.130 --> 18:55.770 There are things and measures that we can take 18:55.770 --> 18:57.670 for those high-risk persons. 18:57.670 --> 19:00.060 In fact, we were talking about this this morning 19:00.060 --> 19:02.536 and some guidance just came out on it. 19:02.536 --> 19:04.584 If you are a high-risk person, 19:04.584 --> 19:07.132 you know, maybe because of age, 19:07.132 --> 19:11.760 or you know, autoimmune or immune-deficient, 19:11.760 --> 19:13.130 or problems like that, 19:13.130 --> 19:15.250 there's a list that the CDC puts out, 19:15.250 --> 19:16.440 the doc can hit on this. 19:16.440 --> 19:18.415 There's a list that the CDC puts out 19:18.415 --> 19:23.415 that tentatively make you more prone to catching COVID. 19:23.730 --> 19:25.900 If you fall into that category, 19:25.900 --> 19:28.860 your health and safety are still our number one thing. 19:28.860 --> 19:33.050 And we have this leave called weather and safety leave 19:33.050 --> 19:38.050 that we can put you on based upon that higher likelihood 19:38.610 --> 19:42.220 that you could contract COVID-19. 19:42.220 --> 19:43.720 So by putting you on that leave, 19:43.720 --> 19:47.310 you're authorized to stay home under those conditions. 19:47.310 --> 19:50.900 We're actually moving in AFMC 19:50.900 --> 19:53.070 to a self-certification for that. 19:53.070 --> 19:54.755 We haven't worked out the procedures, 19:54.755 --> 19:56.250 but in the next week, 19:56.250 --> 19:58.460 I think you'll see the procedures come out 19:58.460 --> 20:02.020 where you can self-certify that you have 20:02.020 --> 20:04.300 one of those medical conditions that puts you 20:04.300 --> 20:05.610 at higher risk. 20:05.610 --> 20:07.970 And then within the next 90 days, 20:07.970 --> 20:12.090 follow up with something from the doc, 20:12.090 --> 20:13.740 whether that's a note from the doc, 20:13.740 --> 20:16.683 or you already got something in your records from the doc. 20:16.683 --> 20:19.020 But you have 90 days to do it. 20:19.020 --> 20:21.170 And we don't want you to have to come into the building 20:21.170 --> 20:24.270 to do that, you know, to put you at risk. 20:24.270 --> 20:26.540 So you'll be able to mail that in, 20:26.540 --> 20:27.910 electronically send it in. 20:27.910 --> 20:31.180 We'll have to work through the HIPAA parts of that. 20:31.180 --> 20:33.680 But if a doc sends this and says, 20:33.680 --> 20:36.370 hey, you're high-risk based on CDC, 20:36.370 --> 20:40.810 I don't need to know what specific condition you have. 20:40.810 --> 20:43.730 But there's ways that we can work that self-certification. 20:43.730 --> 20:44.900 So that's a great question. 20:44.900 --> 20:47.340 We're actually in the middle of working through that. 20:47.340 --> 20:49.353 We got some guidance down from the Air Force. 20:49.353 --> 20:51.560 We're working with AFMC. 20:51.560 --> 20:53.640 And we'll work with General Lenderman, 20:53.640 --> 20:56.990 who is the installation commander here at JBSA, 20:56.990 --> 20:59.370 and your installation if you're somewhere else. 20:59.370 --> 21:01.790 We'll work on how to localize that. 21:01.790 --> 21:03.700 But we're thinking through that problem, 21:03.700 --> 21:05.060 and we got the solution. 21:05.060 --> 21:06.974 We just gotta work the details. 21:06.974 --> 21:08.470 Rob Jackson's here. 21:08.470 --> 21:10.430 Rob, you got anything you want to add on that, 21:10.430 --> 21:14.050 or fix, correct something that I might have screwed up? 21:14.050 --> 21:16.371 - [Rob] I say good comment, sir, on that. 21:16.371 --> 21:17.808 I just want to clarify 21:17.808 --> 21:20.680 that when we're talking about those high-risk individuals 21:20.680 --> 21:24.510 and identifying those personnel that are eligible 21:24.510 --> 21:27.360 for the weather and safety leave immediately, 21:27.360 --> 21:30.976 those are going to be our non-telework-eligible folks first. 21:30.976 --> 21:31.809 - Right. 21:31.809 --> 21:33.730 - [Rob] So just wanted to clarify that. 21:33.730 --> 21:36.540 And like you said, Boss, you know, telework is work. 21:36.540 --> 21:40.180 So if the president does order us back to work 21:40.180 --> 21:42.750 to some degree, as long as they're telework-eligible 21:42.750 --> 21:43.880 and they're performing that work, 21:43.880 --> 21:47.030 then we are cleared hot and still get the mission done. 21:47.030 --> 21:49.780 - Right, our whole goal was to try to flatten that curve 21:49.780 --> 21:52.826 and not get a big spike across the enterprise. 21:52.826 --> 21:55.110 The doc can talk this better, 21:55.110 --> 21:57.840 but if you listen to the national authorities, 21:57.840 --> 22:01.580 this is a 12 to 18-month run with peaks and valleys, 22:01.580 --> 22:02.670 they're gonna go through it. 22:02.670 --> 22:06.020 So we're gonna have to make sure that we take care of you 22:06.020 --> 22:08.110 and that we can still take care of the mission, 22:08.110 --> 22:09.223 because in the end, 22:11.210 --> 22:13.460 our nation's military and being able to perform 22:13.460 --> 22:16.420 those missions, both CONUS and OCONUS, 22:16.420 --> 22:18.220 is a top priority. 22:18.220 --> 22:19.880 Doc, you want to add something that that? 22:19.880 --> 22:21.857 - You hit it right there, you got it. 22:21.857 --> 22:23.690 - [Mike] Well, we do have a follow-up, Dr. DeGoes. 22:23.690 --> 22:25.680 - All right, there you go, they love you, Doc. 22:25.680 --> 22:28.290 - [Mike] What if the high-risk person is in your house 22:28.290 --> 22:30.730 but not the employee, like someone, a child, 22:30.730 --> 22:32.380 or a relative you're caring for? 22:32.380 --> 22:34.720 - Sure, that's a great question, Mike. 22:34.720 --> 22:39.640 And so again, that CDC.gov website 22:39.640 --> 22:41.560 has everything for coronavirus. 22:41.560 --> 22:43.340 It has sections that are for, 22:43.340 --> 22:45.040 I'm an internal medicine physician, 22:45.040 --> 22:48.120 and for infectious disease specialists. 22:48.120 --> 22:52.010 But it also has it for non-medical people. 22:52.010 --> 22:54.340 So what the advice would be, 22:54.340 --> 22:59.120 if you are one of our 25 patients that we sent home 22:59.120 --> 23:02.050 with COVID, we recommend that you go 23:02.050 --> 23:05.870 into a part of the house that we would call the sick room. 23:05.870 --> 23:07.710 And you try to stay in there, 23:07.710 --> 23:11.730 away from the other non-infected people in the house. 23:11.730 --> 23:14.370 So in my, if it was my house 23:14.370 --> 23:17.190 and I had someone who had increased risk, 23:17.190 --> 23:22.190 I would keep them away from where the greater risk is. 23:22.480 --> 23:25.616 And so I would say, if you don't have someone COVID 23:25.616 --> 23:29.890 in the house, that's good, that's the greatest risk. 23:29.890 --> 23:32.679 But if you have a member, like let's say one of you 23:32.679 --> 23:36.140 that's going to work because you have to go, 23:36.140 --> 23:37.720 you're part of the mission-essential 23:37.720 --> 23:39.653 and you want to do it, 23:41.390 --> 23:44.900 when you go home, I would keep that six-foot distance 23:44.900 --> 23:47.240 and try not to, you know, 23:47.240 --> 23:49.770 it's not the time for hugs, handshakes, et cetera, 23:49.770 --> 23:52.703 and I would reduce your interaction with that person 23:52.703 --> 23:55.470 who's at higher risk. 23:55.470 --> 23:58.090 So those would be the kind of things, 23:58.090 --> 24:01.460 the social distancing, and then, you know, 24:01.460 --> 24:04.100 really compulsive handwashing, 24:04.100 --> 24:07.080 coughing into a sleeve, those kind of things, 24:07.080 --> 24:09.760 to prevent you from, 24:09.760 --> 24:12.270 you that's going out into the world a little bit more 24:12.270 --> 24:15.100 and could potentially bump into COVID 24:15.100 --> 24:17.610 from inadvertently bringing it into the home 24:17.610 --> 24:19.390 and then, you know, 24:19.390 --> 24:22.423 giving it to the person who's at more risk. 24:23.580 --> 24:25.410 - [Mike] Okay, sir, we have several questions 24:25.410 --> 24:26.243 about testing. 24:26.243 --> 24:27.210 That's very popular in the news. 24:27.210 --> 24:29.010 I know there's been some concern about that. 24:29.010 --> 24:30.800 If you don't mind, let's just go through those 24:30.800 --> 24:32.330 right in a row. 24:32.330 --> 24:36.070 Do you see any plans for mass testing at some point, 24:36.070 --> 24:37.550 either here, or what you're hearing 24:37.550 --> 24:39.500 in other communities and areas? 24:39.500 --> 24:42.461 - Yeah, so what I would say is, 24:42.461 --> 24:45.060 you know, I think the nation as a whole, 24:45.060 --> 24:47.770 if you've read the news, we were a little slow 24:47.770 --> 24:48.920 in rolling out the tests. 24:48.920 --> 24:51.150 There were some technological and logistics things 24:51.150 --> 24:52.400 with getting it out. 24:52.400 --> 24:55.931 But there's pretty plentiful supplies 24:55.931 --> 24:58.594 in most areas of the country now. 24:58.594 --> 25:01.550 I follow that number five times a day. 25:01.550 --> 25:05.569 Here for Sam HS, we have 2,500 test kits available. 25:05.569 --> 25:09.977 We have the ability to do 200 tests in a day at BAMC. 25:09.977 --> 25:13.860 And that will go up further next week. 25:13.860 --> 25:16.020 We're doing the current best test available, 25:16.020 --> 25:18.400 but next week we hope to get on a test 25:18.400 --> 25:20.990 that's state-of-the-art, just recently FDA-approved 25:20.990 --> 25:23.720 that will take the time from six to eight hours 25:23.720 --> 25:25.940 down to 45 minutes. 25:25.940 --> 25:29.182 So it will allow us to kind of reduce the uncertainty 25:29.182 --> 25:31.620 that we sometimes have. 25:31.620 --> 25:34.020 We send a person home, say we'll call you later, 25:34.020 --> 25:36.860 and they're sitting on eggshells as you would expect. 25:36.860 --> 25:38.623 So mass testing, 25:41.770 --> 25:46.050 there is no indication to test normal people. 25:46.050 --> 25:48.560 And we get that question a lot. 25:48.560 --> 25:50.960 I've had the opportunity to interact 25:50.960 --> 25:55.960 with a lot of Centers for Disease Control world experts, 25:55.960 --> 25:59.496 because we've hosted a couple of Health and Human Services 25:59.496 --> 26:03.060 cruise ship folks on Lackland here. 26:03.060 --> 26:05.927 So that's brought some of the world experts here. 26:05.927 --> 26:08.610 The problem with testing someone 26:08.610 --> 26:11.570 who's currently got no symptoms is 26:11.570 --> 26:14.960 you would potentially have a false sense of security, 26:14.960 --> 26:19.000 because the test cannot be positive, 26:19.000 --> 26:22.270 typically, until you've begun to have symptoms. 26:22.270 --> 26:25.140 And so the symptoms usually correlate with you 26:25.140 --> 26:27.270 having enough of the virus. 26:27.270 --> 26:30.070 So you can imagine on like Day Zero, 26:30.070 --> 26:31.530 you have a little bit, 26:31.530 --> 26:33.770 and then by about Day Four or Five, 26:33.770 --> 26:38.300 you've got enough to where it makes the test positive. 26:38.300 --> 26:41.920 So really, at this point, there's no role 26:41.920 --> 26:45.350 for mass testing people without symptoms. 26:45.350 --> 26:47.100 - [Mike] And is there some type of, 26:47.100 --> 26:49.810 we have a question about whether it's a fever-related. 26:49.810 --> 26:51.500 I mean, do you have to have a certain fever 26:51.500 --> 26:53.412 in order to qualify for the test? 26:53.412 --> 26:56.180 They're saying 104 or higher. 26:56.180 --> 26:58.430 That seems high to me, but you're the doctor. 26:58.430 --> 27:03.430 So 100.4 is typically a fever, 27:04.150 --> 27:06.540 100.4. 27:06.540 --> 27:08.100 So either a fever, 27:08.100 --> 27:11.220 in San Antonio, because it's circulating in the community, 27:11.220 --> 27:12.860 as of yesterday afternoon, 27:12.860 --> 27:15.810 I speak with the San Antonio Metro Health District, 27:15.810 --> 27:18.970 or my folks do, on multiple times of day, 27:18.970 --> 27:21.880 there were probably 75 or 80 cases. 27:21.880 --> 27:23.850 Maybe half of those were travel-related. 27:23.850 --> 27:26.900 People went skiing in Colorado, visiting New York, 27:26.900 --> 27:28.160 came back, became positive. 27:28.160 --> 27:32.060 But half of them, it's circulating in the community. 27:32.060 --> 27:35.970 And so when it's circulating in the community, 27:35.970 --> 27:39.605 you just need either a fever or cough 27:39.605 --> 27:42.660 to qualify for a test. 27:42.660 --> 27:47.300 And we ask enough questions such that if you're coughing 27:47.300 --> 27:51.260 and you don't have a fever and it doesn't, 27:51.260 --> 27:53.490 you don't have a chronic cough, we're going to test you. 27:53.490 --> 27:55.323 And then again, 27:56.275 --> 27:58.570 you have to be able to make a fever. 27:58.570 --> 28:01.290 And so if you've been taking Motrin around the clock, 28:01.290 --> 28:03.880 you probably don't have a fever. 28:03.880 --> 28:08.470 And so, you know, just we put that into kind of 28:08.470 --> 28:10.030 our overall evaluation. 28:10.030 --> 28:13.270 So there could be a case where someone has a mild cough 28:13.270 --> 28:15.130 and their temperature's 99.9, 28:15.130 --> 28:18.460 but they just took 800 milligrams of ibuprofen. 28:18.460 --> 28:19.660 We're going to test you. 28:19.660 --> 28:21.480 So we're going to put everything together 28:21.480 --> 28:24.410 to make the best decision for you and your family 28:24.410 --> 28:26.610 and our community and our mission. 28:26.610 --> 28:27.771 - [Mike] Thanks, sir. 28:27.771 --> 28:29.450 And final test question, how reliable is the test? 28:29.450 --> 28:32.110 Are there any issues with false negatives or positives? 28:32.110 --> 28:34.670 - Yeah, so that's a really good question. 28:34.670 --> 28:39.670 And one of the reasons why there was some initial slowness 28:40.500 --> 28:43.680 in rolling out and the CDC embargoed some tests 28:43.680 --> 28:47.556 was there were some quality issues 28:47.556 --> 28:52.030 back in the end of January, first couple days of February. 28:52.030 --> 28:54.560 Those had been since resolved. 28:54.560 --> 28:58.940 And so there's a very high predictive value of the tests. 28:58.940 --> 29:01.160 In other words, if you're normal, 29:01.160 --> 29:04.456 it's very, very high, you know, 29:04.456 --> 29:08.670 well above 95% that if you're normal, 29:08.670 --> 29:10.170 the test will be normal. 29:10.170 --> 29:11.840 And if you have COVID, 29:11.840 --> 29:14.280 the test will show positive for COVID. 29:14.280 --> 29:17.050 So it's a very, very reliable test. 29:17.050 --> 29:20.174 And in fact, if we are concerned, so concerned, 29:20.174 --> 29:23.040 because maybe you're in that risk population, 29:23.040 --> 29:27.290 and we do the test on you and it's negative, 29:27.290 --> 29:29.650 in some cases, we've actually repeated it 29:29.650 --> 29:33.840 to be certain, because the risk is so great to miss it. 29:33.840 --> 29:36.770 So we're not just following a cookbook. 29:36.770 --> 29:40.140 We're keeping our doctor, nurse thinking caps on. 29:40.140 --> 29:41.740 - [Mike] Thank you, sir. 29:41.740 --> 29:44.030 We'll let you rest your vocal cords for a few minutes. 29:44.030 --> 29:45.433 That was a good run. - Those were great questions, 29:45.433 --> 29:46.830 though, great questions. 29:46.830 --> 29:48.700 Keep them coming, gang. 29:48.700 --> 29:50.613 - [Mike] Sir, General Wilcox, sir, 29:51.620 --> 29:53.700 here's a question we got in advance. 29:53.700 --> 29:56.340 From my perspective, the coronavirus is a catalyst, 29:56.340 --> 29:58.631 not only to illness, but for change. 29:58.631 --> 30:01.850 Will this be a catalyst for change in workplace guidance 30:01.850 --> 30:04.540 to incorporate more long-term work policies 30:04.540 --> 30:08.760 in the near future, that is, more flexible work strategies? 30:08.760 --> 30:11.750 Also, better workplace standards as it applies 30:11.750 --> 30:13.364 to any other infections diseases 30:13.364 --> 30:16.920 and better emergency preparedness standards? 30:16.920 --> 30:18.990 - Well, there's about four things in that question. 30:18.990 --> 30:21.263 But I think yes. 30:22.250 --> 30:27.060 You know, we authorized telework, flex schedule, 30:27.060 --> 30:30.070 all of that across the IMSE enterprise, 30:30.070 --> 30:32.810 you know, shortly after I arrived back in the fall. 30:32.810 --> 30:34.910 A lot of people were moving there. 30:34.910 --> 30:37.590 But, you know, telework is a new thing. 30:37.590 --> 30:39.540 It's a new thing for individuals. 30:39.540 --> 30:41.960 It's a new thing for supervisors. 30:41.960 --> 30:44.540 Some people don't have wifi at their house. 30:44.540 --> 30:48.120 Some people don't have the capability to telework today. 30:48.120 --> 30:50.960 Some people don't feel comfortable teleworking 30:50.960 --> 30:52.090 or have never done it. 30:52.090 --> 30:55.370 Some people just like coming to their cube every day, 30:55.370 --> 30:58.030 you know, so they can high five the person next to them. 30:58.030 --> 31:02.330 I think this telework is, and the flex time 31:02.330 --> 31:03.820 and everything that we're doing now, 31:03.820 --> 31:06.000 working through the problems, 31:06.000 --> 31:09.580 I would like to see a lot of that continue 31:09.580 --> 31:11.130 as we go down the line. 31:11.130 --> 31:15.200 We had people at IMSC that could not telework before. 31:15.200 --> 31:17.350 We have solved a lot of those problems, 31:17.350 --> 31:19.450 and they can telework today. 31:19.450 --> 31:20.810 By the time we come out of this, 31:20.810 --> 31:24.080 people are going to feel more comfortable with teleworking. 31:24.080 --> 31:25.720 I think as an Air Force, 31:25.720 --> 31:28.960 we're jumping on a lot of the problems. 31:28.960 --> 31:33.960 VPN access has been upped to over 240,000 VPN points, 31:35.510 --> 31:38.230 and they're still increasing it every day. 31:38.230 --> 31:41.930 This is looking at how do we increase the call-in lines. 31:41.930 --> 31:44.190 We're using Microsoft Teams. 31:44.190 --> 31:46.370 If people don't know what Microsoft Teams are, 31:46.370 --> 31:50.670 we hosted a meeting, meetings this week online 31:50.670 --> 31:53.290 from everybody at home in their telework location, 31:53.290 --> 31:56.100 pushed the slides on VPN, 31:56.100 --> 31:58.815 and we're able to do that and have a discussion 31:58.815 --> 32:02.540 between 15 different people at their house. 32:02.540 --> 32:05.120 This morning, we had over 50 people call in 32:05.120 --> 32:09.690 on our Microsoft Teams piece, 32:09.690 --> 32:11.650 and we had a morning meeting. 32:11.650 --> 32:15.050 So yes, I think we're advancing this every day, 32:15.050 --> 32:17.680 the Air Force is advancing it every day. 32:17.680 --> 32:22.410 The doc can talk about how they're doing medical care online 32:22.410 --> 32:24.936 and do telework, and I'll throw it to him in a minute 32:24.936 --> 32:26.520 on how we're doing that. 32:26.520 --> 32:29.880 The emergency management piece, for sure. 32:29.880 --> 32:31.950 I think as a center, you know, 32:31.950 --> 32:34.470 being a toddler, 3 1/2 years old, 32:34.470 --> 32:38.375 our number one contingency planning response 32:38.375 --> 32:41.880 was how do we get through hurricane season. 32:41.880 --> 32:45.260 What does that hurricane season look like from a CAT 32:45.260 --> 32:49.780 where we support the MAJCOMs or a local shutdown, 32:49.780 --> 32:51.320 you know, for a day or two, 32:51.320 --> 32:54.730 an accident, a power outage, a sewer line breaks, 32:54.730 --> 32:57.880 what does that continuity of operations look like? 32:57.880 --> 33:02.450 Now we're looking at, you know, 30, 60, 90 days, 33:02.450 --> 33:05.010 and we're adjusting our procedures and building 33:05.010 --> 33:10.010 those things in for a pandemic or a long-term operation. 33:10.092 --> 33:12.880 The CAT is working on checklists 33:12.880 --> 33:15.020 and templates and documents. 33:15.020 --> 33:18.770 We're tagging in clauses to our cleaning contracts. 33:18.770 --> 33:22.330 So I think the whole emergency management piece of this, 33:22.330 --> 33:27.150 at the same time, is growing, and growing across the force. 33:27.150 --> 33:29.900 I mean, I had heard what an HPCON was, right, 33:29.900 --> 33:31.670 health protection condition. 33:31.670 --> 33:33.960 But nobody was as well-versed 33:33.960 --> 33:36.737 on what a forced protection condition was. 33:36.737 --> 33:40.990 And the same thing happened after 1996, Khobar Towers, 33:40.990 --> 33:43.230 and we have matured that program. 33:43.230 --> 33:46.670 So we have checklists for health protection conditions now 33:46.670 --> 33:49.090 in ISMC that we have been working on. 33:49.090 --> 33:50.810 We have orderly shutdown. 33:50.810 --> 33:54.160 All of this is part of those emergency management pieces 33:54.160 --> 33:55.382 that we have been working that will carry through 33:55.382 --> 33:57.510 to our plans. 33:57.510 --> 34:01.950 But I would ask everybody, keep a list of lessons learned. 34:01.950 --> 34:03.932 Keep a list of those stumbling blocks 34:03.932 --> 34:05.860 that we came across, 34:05.860 --> 34:07.525 because we will collect these 34:07.525 --> 34:10.850 and start working through these as we come back 34:10.850 --> 34:13.120 into the building, as we have more bandwidth, 34:13.120 --> 34:15.300 as our technology can handle it, 34:15.300 --> 34:17.020 we'll start correcting these, 34:17.020 --> 34:19.640 building them in to even longer terms. 34:19.640 --> 34:21.510 So we are learning a ton of lessons 34:21.510 --> 34:23.870 and we do not want to let that go. 34:23.870 --> 34:26.700 So Doc, I know you all have made a lot of advancements 34:26.700 --> 34:29.190 in the technology and telework world also. 34:29.190 --> 34:30.560 - Right, absolutely. 34:30.560 --> 34:33.480 I think it was Winston Churchill in World War II 34:33.480 --> 34:35.870 that said, "Never let a good crisis go to waste." 34:35.870 --> 34:40.870 And so we've rapidly fielded virtual health technology. 34:41.370 --> 34:46.110 So probably 70 of our docs just here at Wilford Hall 34:46.110 --> 34:49.580 and double that at BAMC are now working from their home 34:49.580 --> 34:53.700 with Adobe Connect, having video chat appointments with you. 34:53.700 --> 34:56.997 I think you're going to see, after we get through this, 34:56.997 --> 35:01.370 perhaps, you know, a new era of more kind of 35:01.370 --> 35:03.310 get your healthcare when you want it, 35:03.310 --> 35:04.433 where you want it, 35:05.633 --> 35:08.220 and through whom you want it in various ways, 35:08.220 --> 35:10.990 not having to go to brick and mortar facilities 35:10.990 --> 35:11.823 in the future. 35:11.823 --> 35:13.780 And so we're trying to take advantage 35:13.780 --> 35:18.120 of these difficult times to much more rapidly evolve 35:18.120 --> 35:20.980 in field advances. 35:20.980 --> 35:22.490 The other thing I would just say is 35:22.490 --> 35:24.220 my job before coming here 35:24.220 --> 35:28.219 was I was a NORAD USNORTHCOM surgeon during Ebola. 35:28.219 --> 35:31.960 And one of the reasons that Americans' healthcare system 35:31.960 --> 35:35.080 is better prepared today is we learned 35:35.080 --> 35:38.630 we weren't so prepared just for a couple of Ebola cases 35:38.630 --> 35:41.900 back in the fall and early part of 2015. 35:41.900 --> 35:45.970 And so some Ebola money funded 35:45.970 --> 35:49.000 a national hospital preparedness program. 35:49.000 --> 35:52.850 So most of our American hospitals now are 35:52.850 --> 35:57.850 much better prepared to deal with an infectious epidemic, 35:57.880 --> 35:59.980 or, you know, in this case, a pandemic. 35:59.980 --> 36:03.060 So learning those lessons I think is critical 36:03.060 --> 36:05.850 in medical and in your career fields as well. 36:05.850 --> 36:08.990 - Right, so Doc, for that telework 36:08.990 --> 36:10.770 or video chat with the doctor, 36:10.770 --> 36:12.230 they still call the appointment line 36:12.230 --> 36:15.240 to set up an appointment, and then that's how that works? 36:15.240 --> 36:16.972 - Yeah. - That's cool. 36:16.972 --> 36:18.860 - So in San Antonio, it's CAMO, 36:18.860 --> 36:21.630 Centralized Appointment Management Operation. 36:21.630 --> 36:24.583 And they can book you, if required, 36:24.583 --> 36:28.470 into a regular face-to-face visit. 36:28.470 --> 36:32.890 Or they can book you into a telehealth visit. 36:32.890 --> 36:36.160 And actually, our access to care, 36:36.160 --> 36:37.750 in other words, when you call today, 36:37.750 --> 36:40.465 how many appointments are open to be same day 36:40.465 --> 36:45.290 is double what it was three months ago, pre-COVID time. 36:45.290 --> 36:47.420 So we've adjusted with it. 36:47.420 --> 36:49.800 Sure, some of the demand has gone down. 36:49.800 --> 36:53.900 But we've found ways to deliver access to care for you 36:53.900 --> 36:55.510 in different ways. 36:55.510 --> 36:57.750 - So again, call the same appointment number 36:57.750 --> 36:58.583 if you're at JBSA. 36:58.583 --> 37:01.280 If you're at a different location at one of the other bases, 37:01.280 --> 37:04.170 check with that local MTF or call that number 37:04.170 --> 37:07.457 and ask them if you can get a video consult. 37:07.457 --> 37:10.253 So that's great, Doc, love it. 37:11.744 --> 37:13.170 - [Mike] Dr. DeGoes, you mentioned a little while ago 37:13.170 --> 37:16.490 about someone symptomatic, or not symptomatic, 37:16.490 --> 37:18.863 coming in and if they've been taking ibuprofen, 37:18.863 --> 37:21.370 that they might not pop with a fever. 37:21.370 --> 37:23.874 We have two questions about this. 37:23.874 --> 37:28.030 Taking ibuprofen is picking up bad press. 37:28.030 --> 37:29.830 Are med folks tracking that, 37:29.830 --> 37:32.493 and can you confirm it's safe to take ibuprofen? 37:33.370 --> 37:37.960 - So it is, for the vast majority of us 37:37.960 --> 37:39.850 that don't have an allergy 37:39.850 --> 37:44.850 to over-the-counter anti-inflammatories, it is safe. 37:45.340 --> 37:47.330 But I'm an internal medicine doc, 37:47.330 --> 37:51.770 and too much of anything even safe can be damaging. 37:51.770 --> 37:56.010 There are some patients that medicines like ibuprofen, 37:56.010 --> 38:00.900 Aleve, those can cause ulcers in some patients, 38:00.900 --> 38:02.514 or stomach irritation. 38:02.514 --> 38:07.233 Heavy use for long periods of time can cause kidney issues. 38:07.233 --> 38:10.240 And there are a certain populations of people 38:10.240 --> 38:13.140 that are a little more susceptible to those. 38:13.140 --> 38:16.450 But for normal, otherwise healthy people, 38:16.450 --> 38:21.450 an occasional use as needed of an anti-inflammatory, 38:21.630 --> 38:25.260 following the directions on the over-the-counter box, 38:25.260 --> 38:29.650 which has a few warnings, is very safe. 38:29.650 --> 38:33.360 But if you're having to use it frequently, 38:33.360 --> 38:35.160 like you're going to your local drugstore 38:35.160 --> 38:39.410 and buying another bottle of 60 or 120, 38:39.410 --> 38:41.470 or you go to a big box store and you buy 38:41.470 --> 38:43.640 the 500 giant economy size 38:43.640 --> 38:45.620 and you're going through those regularly, 38:45.620 --> 38:48.951 you should talk to your doctor or your healthcare provider 38:48.951 --> 38:53.951 and make sure that the problem that you're taking it for 38:53.980 --> 38:56.770 is well-treated and that it isn't causing you 38:56.770 --> 38:58.360 any side effects. 38:58.360 --> 38:59.730 Great question. 38:59.730 --> 39:00.563 - [Mike] As a follow-up sir, 39:00.563 --> 39:02.730 so for people who are going out 39:02.730 --> 39:05.080 and picking up things they need, 39:05.080 --> 39:07.420 should they wear gloves when shopping? 39:07.420 --> 39:10.330 This person asking this question said 39:10.330 --> 39:13.790 they heard it isn't a good idea to be wearing gloves out. 39:13.790 --> 39:17.150 - So again, I call that the false sense of security. 39:17.150 --> 39:21.790 So I just read this on a CDC thing today. 39:21.790 --> 39:24.833 It shows somebody with those like yellow dishwashing gloves. 39:24.833 --> 39:29.100 The problem is that you still may touch something 39:29.100 --> 39:31.080 and then you touch your face with those gloves, 39:31.080 --> 39:36.080 the COVID-infected droplet which can last on this table, 39:36.089 --> 39:39.520 three hours, maybe in the right circumstances 39:39.520 --> 39:40.570 with the right temperature 39:40.570 --> 39:43.670 and humidity and surface as much as 24 hours, 39:43.670 --> 39:47.070 and some research says in extreme situations 39:47.070 --> 39:49.480 could be 48 or even 72 hours. 39:49.480 --> 39:52.280 Not typically, typically it's about three hours. 39:52.280 --> 39:55.072 But you touch that and you got gloves on, 39:55.072 --> 39:59.020 you're much better off just washing your hands. 39:59.020 --> 39:59.960 Once you touch, 39:59.960 --> 40:03.220 you go out to the commissary, you go to HEB 40:03.220 --> 40:05.780 to get groceries, or wherever you're going to get them, 40:05.780 --> 40:08.430 you're going to touch commonly touched items 40:08.430 --> 40:11.250 that literally hundreds or thousands of people, 40:11.250 --> 40:14.630 door handles, shopping cart kind of things. 40:14.630 --> 40:18.503 The best thing to do is don't touch your face. 40:19.810 --> 40:21.190 Don't touch really anything 40:21.190 --> 40:23.410 until you've washed your hands after you've come 40:23.410 --> 40:28.410 in contact with things that might have some COVID on it. 40:28.640 --> 40:30.400 - So Doc, does hand sanitizer, 40:30.400 --> 40:31.760 what about hand sanitizer? 40:31.760 --> 40:33.950 We keep hearing about hand sanitizer. 40:33.950 --> 40:35.630 - So hand sanitizer works 40:35.630 --> 40:37.390 as long as it's got the alcohol in it. 40:37.390 --> 40:39.890 So the Purell has the, 40:39.890 --> 40:42.164 I've forgotten the exact percentage in it. 40:42.164 --> 40:44.720 If it's been sitting in your car for two years 40:44.720 --> 40:46.690 and it's really runny like liquid, 40:46.690 --> 40:49.440 it probably doesn't have the right amount of alcohol 40:49.440 --> 40:50.273 in it to kill it. 40:50.273 --> 40:52.060 But hand sanitizer does work. 40:52.060 --> 40:53.560 The best thing, though, 40:53.560 --> 40:57.350 is that the turbulence of the water and the soap. 40:57.350 --> 41:00.940 And 20 seconds washing is key. 41:00.940 --> 41:04.260 So I remember my mom telling me sing Happy Birthday 41:04.260 --> 41:07.321 to yourself twice, and that's usually 20 seconds. 41:07.321 --> 41:11.630 So good handwashing with just regular old soap, 41:11.630 --> 41:13.760 doesn't need to be antibacterial soap, 41:13.760 --> 41:14.983 it is the best way. 41:16.230 --> 41:17.160 - [Mike] Sir, have you heard anything 41:17.160 --> 41:20.920 about mass inoculation plans for April 12? 41:20.920 --> 41:23.300 - I have not. - Me neither. 41:23.300 --> 41:26.550 - If I say April 12, I would probably say 2021, 41:26.550 --> 41:29.247 because we are not going to have a vaccine 41:29.247 --> 41:33.080 in that time, we just aren't. 41:33.080 --> 41:37.280 There's probably 20 or so really good candidates 41:37.280 --> 41:41.880 by governments and strongly backed biopharmaceuticals 41:41.880 --> 41:43.510 that are working right now. 41:43.510 --> 41:47.040 You know, we could get something earlier. 41:47.040 --> 41:51.220 But I think most of the CDC leaders, you know, 41:51.220 --> 41:56.010 Dr. Fauci, et cetera, think don't count on it 41:56.010 --> 41:59.233 until the calendar turns to 2021. 42:00.430 --> 42:02.500 - [Mike] General Wilcox, you talked briefly 42:02.500 --> 42:05.270 about our telework situation. 42:05.270 --> 42:08.410 This person's more concerned about staying in contact 42:08.410 --> 42:10.500 on a human level with our teammates. 42:10.500 --> 42:12.540 For example, they're worried about single folks 42:12.540 --> 42:14.510 feeling like they're on an island during this time 42:14.510 --> 42:15.570 when they're teleworking. 42:15.570 --> 42:16.410 Can you address that? 42:16.410 --> 42:19.070 - Yeah, I can, Mike, and that's a great concern. 42:19.070 --> 42:20.494 So thanks for having it. 42:20.494 --> 42:23.760 We've asked supervisors to call, you know, 42:23.760 --> 42:25.062 and check in on people. 42:25.062 --> 42:28.100 I've videochatted a few. 42:28.100 --> 42:29.680 One of my big concerns, 42:29.680 --> 42:33.010 and that I've put out a couple of times now, 42:33.010 --> 42:35.180 that we're really focusing in on, also, 42:35.180 --> 42:37.139 are those deployed spouses. 42:37.139 --> 42:39.260 You know, there's a stop movement. 42:39.260 --> 42:41.910 So the next group that was getting ready to deploy 42:41.910 --> 42:43.420 is not going to deploy now. 42:43.420 --> 42:45.090 Their spouses are loving life. 42:45.090 --> 42:47.470 They can help with the kids and do everything else. 42:47.470 --> 42:49.680 But it's tough on the deployed spouses 42:49.680 --> 42:53.990 whose husbands and wives have been deployed for six months 42:53.990 --> 42:57.390 and now are not going to come home as originally scheduled. 42:57.390 --> 42:59.010 So we gotta think about those, too. 42:59.010 --> 43:01.840 So I've asked the team, hey, pick up the phone. 43:01.840 --> 43:02.810 Let's go old school. 43:02.810 --> 43:04.730 Pick up the phone and give them a call. 43:04.730 --> 43:05.990 You know, FaceTime. 43:05.990 --> 43:07.710 It doesn't require VPN. 43:07.710 --> 43:10.780 VPN's getting a lot better and it's a lot more stable, 43:10.780 --> 43:14.450 but FaceTime doesn't require that. 43:14.450 --> 43:17.944 FaceTime, you know, your teammate, 43:17.944 --> 43:19.660 call them during the day. 43:19.660 --> 43:22.160 Set up one of those video chats with them. 43:22.160 --> 43:23.940 Just ask them, you know. 43:23.940 --> 43:26.108 As I go through staff meetings, I ask, 43:26.108 --> 43:27.680 hey, how's your workforce doing? 43:27.680 --> 43:28.950 How's your section? 43:28.950 --> 43:30.970 How's your branch? 43:30.970 --> 43:33.300 So nothing precludes us. 43:33.300 --> 43:34.740 Shoot them a text. 43:34.740 --> 43:36.696 But it's always good to see them 43:36.696 --> 43:40.250 and see, hey, how are they looking today. 43:40.250 --> 43:44.029 Because as you go longer, it's tough. 43:44.029 --> 43:46.080 An introvert loves it, man. 43:46.080 --> 43:47.650 We're in like heaven, you know, 43:47.650 --> 43:50.210 'cause introvert's at the house and the office. 43:50.210 --> 43:53.170 But an extrovert needs to talk to somebody. 43:53.170 --> 43:54.280 They need to run into it. 43:54.280 --> 43:58.912 I'll tell you who else we gotta watch is our spouses, 43:58.912 --> 44:01.390 because our spouses are at the house. 44:01.390 --> 44:04.420 If you got kids, now they're doing online. 44:04.420 --> 44:07.850 They're doing everything that they used to do. 44:07.850 --> 44:11.500 And we're at home, they're trying to keep the kids quiet, 44:11.500 --> 44:14.484 or we're at home and we're teleworking, 44:14.484 --> 44:18.450 and they're doing that much more with that. 44:18.450 --> 44:22.210 So you gotta get up, walk out, you know, help out. 44:22.210 --> 44:24.920 Help out when telework's over in the evening. 44:24.920 --> 44:27.470 Take the kids on the weekend, take them to the park, 44:27.470 --> 44:28.540 do things like that. 44:28.540 --> 44:30.420 We still gotta have that interaction. 44:30.420 --> 44:32.170 Supervisors still gotta have, 44:32.170 --> 44:35.190 we still need you do to those calls and those checkups, 44:35.190 --> 44:38.960 because the workforce, you remain our key. 44:38.960 --> 44:41.870 And we gotta do everything we can to keep you safe. 44:41.870 --> 44:44.630 So, you know, great question, Mike. 44:44.630 --> 44:45.680 - [Mike] Thank you, sir. 44:45.680 --> 44:48.010 Dr. DeGoes, are referrals still being processed here 44:48.010 --> 44:50.320 in the San Antonio military medical care community? 44:50.320 --> 44:52.490 - Yes, yeah, but by referrals, 44:52.490 --> 44:54.380 you mean like a consult to a specialist, 44:54.380 --> 44:56.840 the answer is absolutely yes. 44:56.840 --> 45:01.375 I spoke with our military network leader 45:01.375 --> 45:05.320 for Humana Military, which manages the network 45:05.320 --> 45:08.206 when you need a specialty that's not available 45:08.206 --> 45:11.203 within the standard time, 45:12.400 --> 45:15.753 or, you know, you wanna see someone on the outside. 45:15.753 --> 45:20.753 And right now, you know, they don't have any new shortages. 45:21.220 --> 45:23.560 But as you know, behavioral health, mental health, 45:23.560 --> 45:25.600 has been short across the country. 45:25.600 --> 45:28.120 And it's not more short now, 45:28.120 --> 45:31.840 but the answer is yes, we're still processing referrals, 45:31.840 --> 45:33.130 same as it ever was. 45:33.130 --> 45:36.210 If I could just jump in on General Wilcox. 45:36.210 --> 45:39.230 So what's unusual about COVID is we're telling people 45:39.230 --> 45:42.410 to isolate, and it's the exact opposite 45:42.410 --> 45:43.810 of kind of what we've been trying to do 45:43.810 --> 45:45.750 with resilience, connectedness. 45:45.750 --> 45:48.983 So I think all of us, when I talk with our medics is, 45:48.983 --> 45:52.450 let's, in trying to improve resilience, 45:52.450 --> 45:54.610 we know that we have kind of a national problem 45:54.610 --> 45:57.420 with suicides and suicide prevention. 45:57.420 --> 46:00.170 And so we're trying to increase connectedness, 46:00.170 --> 46:01.760 increase the wingman culture. 46:01.760 --> 46:03.720 And so we've got to adopt a little bit 46:03.720 --> 46:07.110 of a different wingman culture in the time of COVID. 46:07.110 --> 46:10.850 And so, you know, being creative of how you communicate 46:10.850 --> 46:12.368 with folks is key. 46:12.368 --> 46:13.201 - Right on. 46:14.220 --> 46:15.390 - [Mike] You talked about hygiene 46:15.390 --> 46:17.335 and other things people can do to prevent 46:17.335 --> 46:22.060 or ward off the spread of COVID-19. 46:22.060 --> 46:24.724 Is there anything someone can do on a personal level 46:24.724 --> 46:28.510 concerning nutrition and their diet 46:28.510 --> 46:30.690 that can help prevent it, for example, orange juice, 46:30.690 --> 46:32.980 or all the things we hear about the cold and flu? 46:32.980 --> 46:35.837 - Yeah, so there isn't any one specific thing 46:35.837 --> 46:38.340 that's going to be specific for COVID, 46:38.340 --> 46:40.830 like an anti-COVID vitamin. 46:40.830 --> 46:44.520 I check my spam folder in my computer every day, 46:44.520 --> 46:45.600 I come home for email, 46:45.600 --> 46:47.440 and everybody's got something 46:47.440 --> 46:49.820 they want to get your money for for COVID. 46:49.820 --> 46:51.980 But there simply isn't. 46:51.980 --> 46:56.980 But what makes you healthier and your immune system stronger 46:57.880 --> 47:00.840 to reduce colds is sleeping, you know, 47:00.840 --> 47:04.149 trying to get that seven hours of sleep, good sleep. 47:04.149 --> 47:08.660 Eating well, a variety of foods, foods with color, 47:08.660 --> 47:11.190 foods from the produce section, 47:11.190 --> 47:13.430 foods from the fruit section, 47:13.430 --> 47:15.490 little less processed foods. 47:15.490 --> 47:19.920 So a diverse diet and a little bit of movement. 47:19.920 --> 47:22.220 You don't have to run as much as your boss here, 47:22.220 --> 47:24.279 but movement and exercise, 47:24.279 --> 47:28.820 that actually boots your immunity along with good sleep 47:28.820 --> 47:31.120 and good nutrition. 47:31.120 --> 47:33.160 So just a great question. 47:33.160 --> 47:34.780 - But like the connectedness, right, 47:34.780 --> 47:37.930 we gotta come up with new ways to connect during this time. 47:37.930 --> 47:41.300 We also gotta come up, you know, we're not as active. 47:41.300 --> 47:43.240 We're not walking the building. 47:43.240 --> 47:45.350 We're not walking around. 47:45.350 --> 47:49.270 We're in our house under stay-at-home or safe, 47:49.270 --> 47:51.940 or whatever state you're in. 47:51.940 --> 47:55.435 So most of those states and everything I've seen 47:55.435 --> 47:59.270 authorize to us to go out and go for a walk 47:59.270 --> 48:01.810 or go to the parks, take the dog out, 48:01.810 --> 48:04.130 take the kids to the park, do something, 48:04.130 --> 48:07.024 but still keep getting that movement and that exercise 48:07.024 --> 48:09.563 so we help stay healthy. 48:10.940 --> 48:12.740 - [Mike] Dr. DeGoes, speaking of outside, 48:12.740 --> 48:17.500 I've seen this discussed on the news, the idea of weather. 48:17.500 --> 48:20.420 Is there any evidence that weather impacts the spread 48:20.420 --> 48:23.340 or can inhibit the spread of COVID-19, 48:23.340 --> 48:26.170 such as warmer climates as opposed to colder climates? 48:26.170 --> 48:28.510 - Yeah, so again, that's a great question. 48:28.510 --> 48:30.670 And I think Dr. Fauci at one time, 48:30.670 --> 48:33.950 the director of the NIH Allergy and Infectious Disease 48:33.950 --> 48:36.189 said we all hoped that. 48:36.189 --> 48:38.720 But because COVID's new, we're not certain. 48:38.720 --> 48:42.660 So COVID is a influenza-like virus. 48:42.660 --> 48:45.830 One of the characteristics of the seasonal flu is 48:45.830 --> 48:48.669 in the northern hemisphere, when it gets warmer, 48:48.669 --> 48:51.790 March, April, May, depending on where you are, 48:51.790 --> 48:54.060 it tends to go into dormancy. 48:54.060 --> 48:57.240 We just don't know with this virus. 48:57.240 --> 49:02.240 And what makes me a little concerned that it might not, 49:02.630 --> 49:03.990 still hoping that it will, 49:03.990 --> 49:05.910 is because in the southern hemisphere, 49:05.910 --> 49:09.980 so there's a significant outbreak in South America, 49:09.980 --> 49:11.640 you know, which is their winter, 49:11.640 --> 49:14.660 in South Africa, in Australia. 49:14.660 --> 49:16.480 So some of the southern hemisphere. 49:16.480 --> 49:19.950 So excuse me, it's their summer, I'm sorry. 49:19.950 --> 49:23.180 And so it's spreading there as well. 49:23.180 --> 49:26.030 Now granted, the cases that went there were imported 49:26.030 --> 49:27.630 from other parts of the world. 49:27.630 --> 49:31.580 But they have set up shop during the warmer months 49:31.580 --> 49:35.880 in the southern hemisphere right now. 49:35.880 --> 49:40.880 So I'm hoping that as we get to summer here 49:41.340 --> 49:44.220 in the United States, that it will reduce it. 49:44.220 --> 49:49.220 But it's really uncertain because COVID-19 is so new. 49:53.230 --> 49:54.610 - [Mike] General Wilcox, we've talked a lot 49:54.610 --> 49:57.210 about what we'd do, what we're doing, 49:57.210 --> 50:00.240 prevention, and how we're taking care of our team. 50:00.240 --> 50:03.740 Can you speak to in addition to those internal responses, 50:03.740 --> 50:06.040 we're doing things for the Air Force at-large 50:06.040 --> 50:08.263 as AFMIC, aren't we? - We are. 50:08.263 --> 50:09.380 - [Mike] Are there a couple of examples you can provide 50:09.380 --> 50:11.010 of what our team is doing to help 50:11.010 --> 50:12.540 the Air Force COVID response? 50:12.540 --> 50:16.100 - I mean, I think we're still 100% performing our mission, 50:16.100 --> 50:19.450 which, you know, fuels 77 installations. 50:19.450 --> 50:21.338 We're still providing all the infrastructure. 50:21.338 --> 50:23.690 We're still providing MWR. 50:23.690 --> 50:27.640 We're still providing oversight of the facility 50:27.640 --> 50:31.170 and sustainment modernization, MILCON projects. 50:31.170 --> 50:33.170 We're still providing UO&M. 50:33.170 --> 50:35.730 We're still providing all the contracting support 50:35.730 --> 50:36.680 to the Air Force. 50:36.680 --> 50:39.960 So our mission hasn't stopped or been reduced at all. 50:39.960 --> 50:42.670 I would say, in fact, the mission has increased 50:42.670 --> 50:43.933 because we have baseline, 50:43.933 --> 50:47.423 but then we're doing the COVID-19 type response. 50:48.560 --> 50:51.640 Over a week ago, the Honorable Ellen Lord, 50:51.640 --> 50:55.210 the Assistant Secretary of Defense, you know, 50:55.210 --> 50:59.210 put out a defense infrastructure letter, 50:59.210 --> 51:02.140 defense health letter, that says, 51:02.140 --> 51:03.580 hey, everybody's mission-critical. 51:03.580 --> 51:05.130 Our missions are mission-critical. 51:05.130 --> 51:07.620 Weapon system procurement's mission-critical. 51:07.620 --> 51:09.650 Everything we do is mission-critical. 51:09.650 --> 51:11.520 AFMC put out the same thing 51:11.520 --> 51:13.240 for those mission-essential functions 51:13.240 --> 51:14.760 and installation mission support, 51:14.760 --> 51:16.210 or one of those things. 51:16.210 --> 51:19.500 So we got a lot of contractors right, contracting agents 51:19.500 --> 51:23.700 in the Air Force Installation Contracting Center 51:23.700 --> 51:25.573 that are not only working day-to-day 51:25.573 --> 51:27.570 for the mission that we do today, 51:27.570 --> 51:32.570 but they're also now transitioning over to help with 51:32.580 --> 51:36.450 on the medical side and to help the task force 51:36.450 --> 51:39.390 that's being put together to help take care of that. 51:39.390 --> 51:42.636 So you see this across all our organizations. 51:42.636 --> 51:47.636 You know, the services center continues to conduct MWR, 51:49.023 --> 51:52.880 childcare at the different facilities, albeit reduced. 51:52.880 --> 51:54.950 But you have to do it in a different way, 51:54.950 --> 51:57.480 and they have to come up with things in a different way. 51:57.480 --> 52:01.432 So a lot of the missions that we do continue to go on. 52:01.432 --> 52:03.950 We're putting guidance out. 52:03.950 --> 52:06.464 Custodial contracts are being increased. 52:06.464 --> 52:09.512 How do you have that custodial contract come in, 52:09.512 --> 52:13.990 respond if somebody had a positive case of COVID? 52:13.990 --> 52:17.300 So we're working these things with the installations 52:17.300 --> 52:18.570 as we continue to go. 52:18.570 --> 52:22.393 We had a mission support conference, telecon yesterday 52:22.393 --> 52:26.430 that had probably 260 call-ins on Wednesday morning 52:26.430 --> 52:29.140 and afternoon so that we could answer questions, 52:29.140 --> 52:31.240 push out how we're doing things. 52:31.240 --> 52:34.969 So a lot of great work by the team to help combat 52:34.969 --> 52:38.400 the COVID-19 outbreak and the pandemic 52:38.400 --> 52:41.270 while we're doing our normal mission, 52:41.270 --> 52:43.840 while it's harder to do, 52:43.840 --> 52:47.640 because VPN and telework is challenging. 52:47.640 --> 52:49.970 I acknowledge that it's challenging. 52:49.970 --> 52:52.300 But you guys are getting the job done every single day. 52:52.300 --> 52:56.120 So we're knee-deep in it and in support 52:56.120 --> 52:59.457 with the Space Force, the Air Force, all the MAJCOMS, 52:59.457 --> 53:00.830 and all the installations. 53:00.830 --> 53:02.920 So thanks for what you do. 53:02.920 --> 53:04.500 - [Mike] We've got time for just a few more, 53:04.500 --> 53:05.670 and then we'll give you each a chance, 53:05.670 --> 53:07.331 if there's something we didn't address 53:07.331 --> 53:10.350 that you wanted to talk about, we'll close with that. 53:10.350 --> 53:12.360 Just a few more for Dr. DeGoes. 53:12.360 --> 53:15.100 I think this goes across our enterprise as well, 53:15.100 --> 53:17.250 and I don't know that you have a crystal ball for this. 53:17.250 --> 53:20.230 But when do you expect or anticipate face-to-face 53:20.230 --> 53:23.000 routine appointments to begin again? 53:23.000 --> 53:24.580 And what is that based on? 53:24.580 --> 53:28.060 - Sure, I think it's going to be based on 53:28.060 --> 53:32.110 when we think that the risk is lower to our patients 53:32.110 --> 53:34.150 and to our staff. 53:34.150 --> 53:38.490 And so I think we would have to see some sustained drop 53:38.490 --> 53:42.447 in person-to-person transmission in communities. 53:42.447 --> 53:44.990 And so it's really hard to predict that. 53:44.990 --> 53:47.870 Maybe the weather will kinda cause a lull 53:47.870 --> 53:51.777 and we'll be able to go back to more operations normal, 53:51.777 --> 53:55.050 you know, in whatever aspect of your life, 53:55.050 --> 53:56.940 and to include healthcare, 53:56.940 --> 54:00.363 and then kind of reassess in the fall. 54:01.410 --> 54:04.290 So it's hard to predict exactly. 54:04.290 --> 54:08.670 But as soon as we possibly can do it, we will. 54:08.670 --> 54:09.830 Great question. 54:09.830 --> 54:11.980 - [Mike] I think General Wilcox, you addressed this earlier 54:11.980 --> 54:16.100 that we have a orderly return-to-work plan we're working, 54:16.100 --> 54:18.340 but what would be some triggers that you're hearing 54:18.340 --> 54:21.870 from your leadership at AFMC and the Air Force. 54:21.870 --> 54:24.240 Is there discussion about what those triggers would be? 54:24.240 --> 54:25.410 - Well, they are taking a look at it. 54:25.410 --> 54:29.310 I think a lot of it would, the doc just said, 54:29.310 --> 54:31.778 you know, applies to transitioning back to normal life, 54:31.778 --> 54:35.230 just not medical, but everything. 54:35.230 --> 54:36.899 I mean, as I stated earlier, 54:36.899 --> 54:40.359 there's a close partnership with the medical community 54:40.359 --> 54:44.050 on how, what our posture's going to be, 54:44.050 --> 54:45.600 and how we're going to return to work. 54:45.600 --> 54:47.150 We're not going to rush back. 54:47.150 --> 54:49.920 I mean, as long as we get the mission done on telework, 54:49.920 --> 54:51.840 which we're doing every single day, 54:51.840 --> 54:54.400 then the plan is not to call everybody back 54:54.400 --> 54:56.060 into the building next week 54:57.318 --> 54:59.080 while we're still rolling through this. 54:59.080 --> 55:03.240 Nationally, we have the health protection condition system. 55:03.240 --> 55:05.740 So nationally, the Secretary of the Air Force 55:05.740 --> 55:08.572 put us all in Charlie across the board. 55:08.572 --> 55:11.250 So I think just like, you know, 55:11.250 --> 55:14.430 for protection of the installation, 55:14.430 --> 55:17.010 you see force protection conditions ramp down, 55:17.010 --> 55:19.330 you'll have to see those health protection conditions 55:19.330 --> 55:22.510 ramp down, which are based on these different factors 55:22.510 --> 55:23.680 that are out there, 55:23.680 --> 55:25.170 you know, while still taking care of 55:25.170 --> 55:26.470 the higher risk personnel, 55:26.470 --> 55:29.095 you know, while still being able to take care 55:29.095 --> 55:31.360 of those single, 55:31.360 --> 55:35.180 single-family, single person families, you know, 55:35.180 --> 55:36.170 who have to take kids. 55:36.170 --> 55:38.500 We haven't talked a lot about kids. 55:38.500 --> 55:40.450 You know, I think I'm going to ask the doc here at the end 55:40.450 --> 55:43.700 how kids are faring under CV-19. 55:43.700 --> 55:44.840 You don't hear a lot about them. 55:44.840 --> 55:47.260 I think they must be doing a little bit better. 55:47.260 --> 55:51.059 But, you know, it'll be a concerted effort 55:51.059 --> 55:54.500 with discussion and back and forth 55:54.500 --> 55:57.330 with the medical community and all the experts 55:57.330 --> 55:59.240 before you see us all rolling back 55:59.240 --> 56:01.190 into Building One full blast. 56:01.190 --> 56:04.130 Just like we eased out of Building One 56:04.130 --> 56:07.535 with different teams on primary teams, 56:07.535 --> 56:09.750 you know, reporting in, 56:09.750 --> 56:12.410 you know, I think we'll have an orderly fashion 56:12.410 --> 56:14.270 where we start coming back to work 56:14.270 --> 56:16.620 based upon the effects on the ground 56:16.620 --> 56:19.660 at your specific location at that time. 56:19.660 --> 56:23.180 - Yeah, so for children, unlike, you know, 56:23.180 --> 56:25.970 seasonal influenza, which the very young 56:25.970 --> 56:29.040 and the very old are where the most severe cases are, 56:29.040 --> 56:32.160 most of the hospitalizations, and unfortunately the deaths, 56:32.160 --> 56:36.000 with COVID, it's very rare in people under 20 56:36.000 --> 56:38.150 that they have significant disease. 56:38.150 --> 56:40.477 You hear about a case here or there, 56:40.477 --> 56:43.910 but exceeding rare. 56:43.910 --> 56:45.760 So that's one of the silver linings 56:45.760 --> 56:49.320 is our children are safer from COVID, 56:49.320 --> 56:52.310 and most of the severe is in people 56:52.310 --> 56:54.440 that have an underlying medical condition 56:54.440 --> 56:57.200 of whatever age that affects their immune system, 56:57.200 --> 56:59.010 or the very old. 56:59.010 --> 57:00.740 So that is a good thing about COVID, 57:00.740 --> 57:02.980 if there is any. 57:02.980 --> 57:04.460 - [Mike] Yes, sir, while you have the floor, 57:04.460 --> 57:06.210 we've got about three minutes left. 57:06.210 --> 57:08.380 Anything you want to address that we haven't touched on? 57:08.380 --> 57:11.548 - Sure, so again, we're in a balancing act. 57:11.548 --> 57:15.090 Docs, we recommend, commanders decide. 57:15.090 --> 57:17.610 And depending on how important the mission is, 57:17.610 --> 57:19.780 we might have to take a little bit of risk. 57:19.780 --> 57:22.940 But when the risk isn't really high, 57:22.940 --> 57:26.070 then we're going to try to keep us all as safe as possible. 57:26.070 --> 57:28.220 And so it's all those things we talked about. 57:28.220 --> 57:31.447 Use the CDC's self-assessment tool, 57:31.447 --> 57:34.736 call and ask questions if you're uncertain, 57:34.736 --> 57:37.100 follow that CDC guidelines, 57:37.100 --> 57:40.410 and you will keep yourself, the mission, 57:40.410 --> 57:43.380 your families, and the communities that you live in safer. 57:43.380 --> 57:45.510 Thanks for all you do for our nation 57:45.510 --> 57:47.967 and the United States Air Force. 57:47.967 --> 57:51.833 - Hey team, I hope this has been beneficial to you. 57:51.833 --> 57:54.510 If there's, let us know. 57:54.510 --> 57:57.450 Like it if, you know, put some comments down. 57:57.450 --> 58:00.180 If there's somebody else that you'd like us 58:00.180 --> 58:02.720 to take a field trip with or bring in to one of these 58:02.720 --> 58:06.040 in the future, we'll absolutely do it. 58:06.040 --> 58:09.750 I wanna say thanks to the team for being innovative 58:09.750 --> 58:12.010 and coming up with new ways to do it. 58:12.010 --> 58:13.790 Thanks for getting the mission done 58:13.790 --> 58:17.240 when the technology might not be 100% 58:17.240 --> 58:19.270 to what it is in the building. 58:19.270 --> 58:20.460 I mean, even in the building, 58:20.460 --> 58:22.460 don't forget we fight the blue circle of death 58:22.460 --> 58:23.490 all the time, right? 58:23.490 --> 58:25.840 So now we fight the VPN a little bit. 58:25.840 --> 58:26.870 But it's getting better. 58:26.870 --> 58:30.040 And the Air Force is moving in the right direction. 58:30.040 --> 58:31.840 DoD's moving in the right direction. 58:31.840 --> 58:33.690 We're moving in the right direction 58:33.690 --> 58:37.100 and coming up with new ways of doing things all the time. 58:37.100 --> 58:39.600 It's Friday, we're rolling into the weekend. 58:39.600 --> 58:41.300 It's been a busy two weeks. 58:41.300 --> 58:45.710 I can't stress the importance of your resiliency 58:45.710 --> 58:48.610 and your health to us getting the mission done. 58:48.610 --> 58:50.760 Call your coworkers. 58:50.760 --> 58:53.068 Get out of the house and go for a walk. 58:53.068 --> 58:57.700 Don't pile into the mall or go wait with a big group 58:57.700 --> 59:00.540 of people anywhere, but get out and about 59:00.540 --> 59:02.380 and take some time for yourself. 59:02.380 --> 59:05.970 Exercise, eat well, take care of the team. 59:05.970 --> 59:08.470 Continue the great communication flow. 59:08.470 --> 59:13.120 I mean, you can send us questions any time, through PA, 59:13.120 --> 59:15.140 post it on the Facebook site. 59:15.140 --> 59:17.300 You've probably seen it, I've sent out more emails, 59:17.300 --> 59:19.200 I'm posting more on Facebook. 59:19.200 --> 59:21.520 That's because we don't see each other every day 59:21.520 --> 59:24.700 and I don't get the benefit of walking through your bay, 59:24.700 --> 59:26.900 you know, or your det commander's not walking through 59:26.900 --> 59:30.570 the office, or your PSU commander's not walking around 59:30.570 --> 59:32.470 saying, hey, how are you doing? 59:32.470 --> 59:35.140 So I start off that a lot of times. 59:35.140 --> 59:37.731 Be resilient, take care of your family, 59:37.731 --> 59:39.200 take care of yourself, 59:39.200 --> 59:41.450 and I know you'll take care of the mission. 59:41.450 --> 59:42.890 Thanks, Atlas Nation. 59:42.890 --> 59:45.490 You guys have a super weekend, 59:45.490 --> 59:48.060 and we'll see you next week. 59:48.060 --> 59:49.113 General Wilcox out.